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2025-06-10 Minutes of the Forum Toronto F2F
June 10, 2025 by CA/B Forum Teleconference - 2025-06-10Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Toronto F2F Date: 10 June 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin Guest speaker: Chrome’s views on PQCPresenter: David Adrian Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/Chrome_PQC_CABF_F2F_Toronto_2025_EXTERNAL.pdf Guest speaker: The Future of ZLintPresenter: Zakir Durumeric Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/The_Future_of_ZLint_CABF_F2F_Toronto_2025.pdf Remedies for CPS ErrorsPresenter: Tim Callan Minute taker: Ben Wilson See SCWG minutes Panel Q&APresenter: Ben Wilson Minute taker: Dimitris No additional discussion. Mozilla Root Program UpdatePresenter: Ben Wilson Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/June-2025-Mozilla-News.pdf Minute taker: Scott Rea Ben’s curated notes (presented in the meeting) can be found at: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zv6XlzitsQdaBp6gf_u3ND7Fzum1pPLY/view
June 10, 2025 by CA/B Forum Teleconference - 2025-06-10Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Toronto F2F Date: 10 June 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin Guest speaker: Chrome’s views on PQCPresenter: David Adrian Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/Chrome_PQC_CABF_F2F_Toronto_2025_EXTERNAL.pdf Guest speaker: The Future of ZLintPresenter: Zakir Durumeric Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/The_Future_of_ZLint_CABF_F2F_Toronto_2025.pdf Remedies for CPS ErrorsPresenter: Tim Callan Minute taker: Ben Wilson See SCWG minutes Panel Q&APresenter: Ben Wilson Minute taker: Dimitris No additional discussion. Mozilla Root Program UpdatePresenter: Ben Wilson Presentation Link: https://cabforum.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-minutes-of-the-forum-toronto-f2f/June-2025-Mozilla-News.pdf Minute taker: Scott Rea Ben’s curated notes (presented in the meeting) can be found at: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zv6XlzitsQdaBp6gf_u3ND7Fzum1pPLY/view
2025-05-22 Minutes of the Forum
May 22, 2025 by CA/B Forum Teleconference - 2025-05-22Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Date: 22 May 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin 1. Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean Coclin; recording in process. 2. Note-well Note-well has already been read. 3. Review Agenda No changes to the agenda. 4. Approval of Minutes April 10th - still pending May 8th - minutes approved. 5. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG Wayne said SC81 passed IPR review period, and new version after fixing some issues is available. Validation Subcommittee They spent the majority of time to discuss SC085 and SC082, and make significant progress including triage of a bunch of bugs in GitHub, including assigning things out to a few people. 6. Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) CSC030 should be hitting discussion period shortly, and not further updates yet on reducing the validity period. Karina will take over the role of representative from Microsoft, and the ballot for reduction of validity period will start running by Microsoft. PQC ballot is pending, and looking for additional endorser. 7. S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) Discussed on PQC to found out what else is need for ballot. Also discussed on MPIC and validation control over mailbox. SMC012 is in the discussion period. Kicked off for updating Section 7 and looking for volunteers. 8. NetSec Working Group update (Ben) Went through the issues on GitHub and closed 4~5 of them because they had already been resolved. Reviewed agenda for F2F meeting. 9. Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim Callan) Compared definitions from various documents to identify inconsistencies. Most definitions were identical or had trivial differences like capitalization. Developed proposals to resolve discrepancies and aim to gather feedback from a group of participants. The next steps involve incorporating feedback into a document and proceeding with a ballot. 10. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Ben) No meeting last week. 11. Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Working on revising IPR policy. An email was sent on May 19th to a public list requesting feedback on the invited experts policy and agreement by the deadline of May 27th, acknowledging the upcoming holiday. Ben encouraged feedback by Tuesday and seeks two endorsers for a forum ballot. 12. Bylaws Changes (Ben) Aaron said a forum bylaws change ballot was sent to an old mailing list instead of current one, preventing recipients from receiving them. Aaron restarted the discussion period and encouraged participants to review the email and ballot, and to provide any comments or suggestions. 13. F2F meeting Agenda Tim highlighted recent incidents related to CPS errors causing mass revocation events, and proposed discussing potential solutions to improve transparency and accountability without such events. Dean encouraged participants to send topics after the call, if needed. Rebecca inquired about deadlines for agenda topics and Dean confirmed it would be finalized a week before the meeting.
May 22, 2025 by CA/B Forum Teleconference - 2025-05-22Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Date: 22 May 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin 1. Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean Coclin; recording in process. 2. Note-well Note-well has already been read. 3. Review Agenda No changes to the agenda. 4. Approval of Minutes April 10th - still pending May 8th - minutes approved. 5. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG Wayne said SC81 passed IPR review period, and new version after fixing some issues is available. Validation Subcommittee They spent the majority of time to discuss SC085 and SC082, and make significant progress including triage of a bunch of bugs in GitHub, including assigning things out to a few people. 6. Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) CSC030 should be hitting discussion period shortly, and not further updates yet on reducing the validity period. Karina will take over the role of representative from Microsoft, and the ballot for reduction of validity period will start running by Microsoft. PQC ballot is pending, and looking for additional endorser. 7. S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) Discussed on PQC to found out what else is need for ballot. Also discussed on MPIC and validation control over mailbox. SMC012 is in the discussion period. Kicked off for updating Section 7 and looking for volunteers. 8. NetSec Working Group update (Ben) Went through the issues on GitHub and closed 4~5 of them because they had already been resolved. Reviewed agenda for F2F meeting. 9. Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim Callan) Compared definitions from various documents to identify inconsistencies. Most definitions were identical or had trivial differences like capitalization. Developed proposals to resolve discrepancies and aim to gather feedback from a group of participants. The next steps involve incorporating feedback into a document and proceeding with a ballot. 10. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Ben) No meeting last week. 11. Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Working on revising IPR policy. An email was sent on May 19th to a public list requesting feedback on the invited experts policy and agreement by the deadline of May 27th, acknowledging the upcoming holiday. Ben encouraged feedback by Tuesday and seeks two endorsers for a forum ballot. 12. Bylaws Changes (Ben) Aaron said a forum bylaws change ballot was sent to an old mailing list instead of current one, preventing recipients from receiving them. Aaron restarted the discussion period and encouraged participants to review the email and ballot, and to provide any comments or suggestions. 13. F2F meeting Agenda Tim highlighted recent incidents related to CPS errors causing mass revocation events, and proposed discussing potential solutions to improve transparency and accountability without such events. Dean encouraged participants to send topics after the call, if needed. Rebecca inquired about deadlines for agenda topics and Dean confirmed it would be finalized a week before the meeting.
2025-05-08 Minutes of the Forum
May 8, 2025 by CA/B Forum and Server Certificate WG Teleconference - 2025-05-08Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Date: 8 May 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin Minutes Taken By: Wayne Thayer 1. Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean Coclin; recording in process. 2. Note-well Note-well has already been read. 3. Review Agenda No changes to the agenda. 4. Approval of Minutes April 10th (Trev) - these are still pending. April 24th (Thomas) - have been posted to the management list; minutes approved. F2F#64 - minutes approved. 5. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG Discussed recent comments on SC081; no action needed. Discussion on ability to lock comments on PRs and request to Infrastructure SC to standardize. Ballots were discussed. Validation Subcommittee Corey reported focus on SC085 (DNSSEC ballot) and technical details/effective dates. Also discussed SC082 redux and new validation method by Michael Slaughter. Ongoing PR discussion on GitHub. 6. Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) No call was held; no updates. 7. S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) Discussed ACME for S/MIME ballot. Discussed tagging of pseudonyms in common names to prevent confusion. Broader discussion on adopting the detailed Section 7 structure of the TLS BRs. SMC011 exits IPR on May 14. 8. NetSec Working Group update (Clint) Discussion of NS008 and section 2.2.6 remote connections language. Potential confusion with “access to CA infrastructure” for customer portals. Proposed new term: “privileged access” to clarify. Ballot updated to version 3 and discussion period restarted. Aiming to move to voting on May 14th. 9. Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim C.) No update. 10. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Jos) Reviewed GitHub ‘restrict comments’ setting—agreed to use and document in CLA/readme. Ben’s meeting minutes template added to wiki; plan to test with AI transcription. Suggestion: chairs should clearly call out agenda sections for AI alignment. Concern raised by Wayne: restricting comments may drive demand for write access. Jos: propose self-service update via membership-tools record. 11. Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Next meeting scheduled for May 15* 12. Bylaws Changes (Ben - Dimitris) No recent progress. Rebecca Kelley to collaborate with Ben. 13. Any Other Business Toronto Face-to-Face meeting approaching. In-person attendance deadline has passed. Reminder to book hotels. Aaron drafted a bylaws update ballot to allow WG chairs to convert relative effective dates to concrete dates post-ballot. Planning to begin discussion period. 14. Next Call May 22, 2025 15. Adjourn Attendees Aaron Gable (Let’s Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen (Amazon), Adam Jones (Microsoft), Adriano Santoni (Actalis S.p.A.), Antti Backman (Telia Company), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Brianca Martin (Amazon), Chris Clements (Google), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Cynethia Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Dean Coclin (DigiCert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Gregory Tomko (GlobalSign), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Iori Kondo (Cybertrust Japan), Jaime Hablutzel (OISTE Foundation), Jeanette Snook (Visa), Jeff Ward (Aprio), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Fastly), Jun Okura (Cybertrust Japan), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Kate Xu (TrustAsia), Kiran Tummala (Microsoft), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Lucy Buecking (IdenTrust), Luis Cervantes (SSL.com), Mahua Chaudhuri (Microsoft), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Matthew McPherrin (Let’s Encrypt), Michael Slaughter (Amazon), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mohd Redha Hamzah (Pos Digicert Sdn. Bhd.), Mrugesh Chandarana (IdenTrust), Nargis Mannan (VikingCloud), Nate Smith (GoDaddy), Nome Huang (TrustAsia), Ono Fumiaki (SECOM Trust Systems), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rebecca Kelly (SSL.com), Rich Smith (DigiCert), Rollin Yu (TrustAsia), Ryan Dickson (Google), Scott Rea (eMudhra), Sooyoung Eo (NAVER Cloud Trust Services), Stephen Davidson (DigiCert), Steven Deitte (GoDaddy), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Yamian Quintero (Microsoft)
May 8, 2025 by CA/B Forum and Server Certificate WG Teleconference - 2025-05-08Meeting Title: CA/Browser Forum Date: 8 May 2025 Chair: Dean Coclin Minutes Taken By: Wayne Thayer 1. Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean Coclin; recording in process. 2. Note-well Note-well has already been read. 3. Review Agenda No changes to the agenda. 4. Approval of Minutes April 10th (Trev) - these are still pending. April 24th (Thomas) - have been posted to the management list; minutes approved. F2F#64 - minutes approved. 5. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG Discussed recent comments on SC081; no action needed. Discussion on ability to lock comments on PRs and request to Infrastructure SC to standardize. Ballots were discussed. Validation Subcommittee Corey reported focus on SC085 (DNSSEC ballot) and technical details/effective dates. Also discussed SC082 redux and new validation method by Michael Slaughter. Ongoing PR discussion on GitHub. 6. Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) No call was held; no updates. 7. S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) Discussed ACME for S/MIME ballot. Discussed tagging of pseudonyms in common names to prevent confusion. Broader discussion on adopting the detailed Section 7 structure of the TLS BRs. SMC011 exits IPR on May 14. 8. NetSec Working Group update (Clint) Discussion of NS008 and section 2.2.6 remote connections language. Potential confusion with “access to CA infrastructure” for customer portals. Proposed new term: “privileged access” to clarify. Ballot updated to version 3 and discussion period restarted. Aiming to move to voting on May 14th. 9. Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim C.) No update. 10. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Jos) Reviewed GitHub ‘restrict comments’ setting—agreed to use and document in CLA/readme. Ben’s meeting minutes template added to wiki; plan to test with AI transcription. Suggestion: chairs should clearly call out agenda sections for AI alignment. Concern raised by Wayne: restricting comments may drive demand for write access. Jos: propose self-service update via membership-tools record. 11. Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Next meeting scheduled for May 15* 12. Bylaws Changes (Ben - Dimitris) No recent progress. Rebecca Kelley to collaborate with Ben. 13. Any Other Business Toronto Face-to-Face meeting approaching. In-person attendance deadline has passed. Reminder to book hotels. Aaron drafted a bylaws update ballot to allow WG chairs to convert relative effective dates to concrete dates post-ballot. Planning to begin discussion period. 14. Next Call May 22, 2025 15. Adjourn Attendees Aaron Gable (Let’s Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen (Amazon), Adam Jones (Microsoft), Adriano Santoni (Actalis S.p.A.), Antti Backman (Telia Company), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Brianca Martin (Amazon), Chris Clements (Google), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Cynethia Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Dean Coclin (DigiCert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Gregory Tomko (GlobalSign), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Iori Kondo (Cybertrust Japan), Jaime Hablutzel (OISTE Foundation), Jeanette Snook (Visa), Jeff Ward (Aprio), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Fastly), Jun Okura (Cybertrust Japan), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Kate Xu (TrustAsia), Kiran Tummala (Microsoft), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Lucy Buecking (IdenTrust), Luis Cervantes (SSL.com), Mahua Chaudhuri (Microsoft), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Matthew McPherrin (Let’s Encrypt), Michael Slaughter (Amazon), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mohd Redha Hamzah (Pos Digicert Sdn. Bhd.), Mrugesh Chandarana (IdenTrust), Nargis Mannan (VikingCloud), Nate Smith (GoDaddy), Nome Huang (TrustAsia), Ono Fumiaki (SECOM Trust Systems), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rebecca Kelly (SSL.com), Rich Smith (DigiCert), Rollin Yu (TrustAsia), Ryan Dickson (Google), Scott Rea (eMudhra), Sooyoung Eo (NAVER Cloud Trust Services), Stephen Davidson (DigiCert), Steven Deitte (GoDaddy), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Yamian Quintero (Microsoft)
2025-04-24 Minutes of the Forum
April 24, 2025 by Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean; recording in process Roll taken by recording Note-well Note-well has already been read Review Agenda Begin Recording - Roll Call Read note-well Review of Agenda Approval of minutes: April 10th and F2F. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) NetSec Working Group update (Clint) Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim H.) Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Jos) Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Bylaws changes (Ben - Dimitris) Any Other Business Next call: May 8, 2025 Adjourn Approval of Minutes No minutes for 2024-04-10 Minutes from the F2F: Ryan asked for more time to review - deferred to next meeting. Draft minutes and presentations from F2F are available on Wiki Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG
April 24, 2025 by Roll Call and Housekeeping Meeting called to order by Dean; recording in process Roll taken by recording Note-well Note-well has already been read Review Agenda Begin Recording - Roll Call Read note-well Review of Agenda Approval of minutes: April 10th and F2F. Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) Code Signing Certificate Working Group update (Martijn) S/MIME Certificate Working Group update (Stephen) NetSec Working Group update (Clint) Definitions and Glossary Working Group (Tim H.) Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update (Jos) Intellectual Property Rights Subcommittee (Ben) Bylaws changes (Ben - Dimitris) Any Other Business Next call: May 8, 2025 Adjourn Approval of Minutes No minutes for 2024-04-10 Minutes from the F2F: Ryan asked for more time to review - deferred to next meeting. Draft minutes and presentations from F2F are available on Wiki Server Certificate Working Group update (Dimitris) SCWG
Minutes of the F2F 64 Meeting in Tokyo, Japan - Forum-level, March 25-26, 2025
March 27, 2025 by Dean CoclinDay 1 Tuesday, March 25, 2025CA/Browser Forum level Meeting Attendees (Aggregated participants physically present and remote from days 1 and 2)
March 27, 2025 by Dean CoclinDay 1 Tuesday, March 25, 2025CA/Browser Forum level Meeting Attendees (Aggregated participants physically present and remote from days 1 and 2)
2025-03-13 Minutes of the CA/Browser Forum Teleconference
March 13, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on March 13, 2025.
March 13, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on March 13, 2025.
2025-02-27 Minutes of the CA/Browser Forum Teleconference
February 27, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on February 27, 2025.
February 27, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on February 27, 2025.
2025-02-13 Minutes of the CA/Browser Forum Teleconference
February 13, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on February 13, 2025.
February 13, 2025 by Corey BonnellFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on February 13, 2025.
2025-01-30 Minutes of the CA/Browser Forum Teleconference
January 30, 2025 by Martijn KaterbargFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on January 30, 2025.
January 30, 2025 by Martijn KaterbargFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on January 30, 2025.
2025-01-16 Minutes of the CA/Browser Forum Teleconference
January 16, 2025 by Martijn KaterbargFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on January 16, 2025.
January 16, 2025 by Martijn KaterbargFinal minutes of the CA/B Forum call held on January 16, 2025.