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2020-02-06 Minutes of the Server Certificate Working Group

Attendees (in alphabetical order)

Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (SecureTrust), Chris Kemmerer (, Curt Spann (Apple), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Leo Grove (, Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick Nohe (GlobalSign), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Thanos Vrachnos (, Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Vincent Lynch (Digicert), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority).


1. Roll Call

The Chair took attendance.

2. Read Antitrust Statement

The Antitrust Statement was read.

3. Review Agenda

Accepted without changes.

4. Approval of minutes from previous teleconference

Accepted without objections.

5. Approval of minutes from F2F meeting November 5, 2019

Accepted without objections.

6. Validation Subcommittee Update

  • The subcommittee’s call was short and discussed about possible topics for the upcoming F2F.

7. NetSec Subcommittee Update

  • Problems discussing how the SC could share sensitive information off the public list. Created a netsec-management list with help from Travis.
  • Preparing a new ballot to change the CVSS requirements
  • Working on the Log retention ballot, performing a risks benefit analysis in the discussion document so others can see the thought process and rationale and why some items are proposed for a 2-year retention policy vs the normal one (7+ years).
  • SC20 is on discussion
  • Finalize what to present at the F2F.

8. Ballot Status

Ballots in Discussion Period

SC20: Configuration Management (Neil) Ryan suggested there could be “creative interpretations” to the text related to desired config changes that would not be considered compliance issues. He recommended alternative language that will be discussed at the next meeting. The plan is to put this ballot out for a vote soon. The subcommittee agreed to stick with lightweight changes that Ryan proposed. _ SC27: Version 3 Onion Certificates _(Wayne) There was a change in section improving a rather long paragraph. After 7 days of discussion Wayne will start the voting period

Ballots in Voting Period


Ballots in Review Period

SC25: Define New HTTP Domain Validation Methods (review ends 2020-03-03)

Draft Ballots under Consideration

SC26 – Pandoc-Friendly Markdown Formatting Changes (Jos) Jos posted a quick update that fixed the issues. Comparison is now easier. Plans to start the discussion period.

LEI Ballot (Tim H.)_ _ No updates. More discussion at the F2F._

Aligning the BRs with existing Browser Requirements _(Ryan) Ryan is incorporating Mozilla Policy 2.7. The plan is to send an update before the F2F. All proposed changes derive from existing Root Program requirements. Ryan also wants to explore what the effective dates should be in the BRs because various root programs had different policies and effective dates in the past. This issue is more important to Root Programs than for the CA members. CAs will see if they have missed any program requirements and Root Programs will see whether they were enforcing their Root Program requirements on CAs and whether the Root Programs would decide to give some grace period.

Tim H noted that it is possible that a CA may not participate in all Root programs. Therefore, bringing all requirements in the BRs would cause that CA to have to comply with more than necessary and even though that CA was complying with the requirements of a single Root Program, it would be out of compliance because of the additional requirements from other Root Programs. Ryan considers this to be a fair statement and we will need to discuss possible solutions.

9. Approve agenda for F2F 49

The agenda as posted on 2020-02-07 was approved.

10. Any Other Business

No other Business raised.

11. Next call

March 5, 2020 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.


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